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Message posted by tansyecork on 27áJuneá2002 at 18:18 - IP Logged
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Am I right in the following assumption?

 

Ebone is seperate to KPNQwest.

Ebone could keep running despite the KPNQwest problems.

Can I switch back to Netcom if Ebone don't make it?

 

thanks, really admire what you chaps are doing.  I'll keep with you as long as I can but  the powers that be here might force my hand.  Keeping faith at the moment but need to keep on top of the information


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Yes, Ebone is separate from KPNQwest.

There are scenarios under which Ebone could continue without KQ. These are currently under discussion.

Do not quote me on this, but between you an me I suspect former Netcom customers will ride this storm and come out just fine with Netcom, a separate legal entity, currently in sales talks themselves.

I thank you on behalf of my NOC colleagues, and CSC with whom I work closely. Also, for th behind-the-scenes Field Engineers who work so hard for us. Thank you for your support.



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Don't suppose there's anything I can't quote you on about former GTS customers?

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After talking with Netcom on Friday it appears that only former Netcom customers that are still connected through the Netcom network are safe.  Those that were with netcom but say installed a new line that went throught the Ebone kit will not be taken back over.

I am praying much like everyone else that the Oakley deal goes through... Good luck all.



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Well actually that's not quite accurate.

It all depends where you are hooked up, if you're hooked up in an Ebone-only pop then even though we at Netcom will do a best endeavour effort to keep you up , we cannot guarantee uptime.

If on the other hand you're hooked up in a Netcom pop (Bracknell and some London locations) then we can guarantee uptime and carry traffic for the time being (of course contingent on whether Ebone stays up or not or you become a Netcom customer again).

Another consideration is the contract you're on now, if it's Netcom then you're safe too. If it's Ebone, then the PoP thing matters.

Rgds,

Roeland Mertens, Chief Engineer, Netcom Internet

 


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As with the note on DNS changes, Netcom will remain whatever happens. Therefore former Netcom customers have nothing to worry about.

But I would also add that neither do Ebone customers. On Monday there will be the most important annoucement so far. Don't quote me on the content, but I expect it will be to announce that we have been taken over, and that the new owners want "business as usual". They have clearly told me that they want Ebone to be run as it was pre-KPNQwest takeover.

Fingers and all body parts crossed, but I can see great times ahead, be you customer, partner or employee.

Monday is the final hurdle.

Graham Kinsey, Senior NOC Engineer, Ebone


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and as you know, Graham, you're not the only one thinking that ;)

Stephan Persoons, Shift Manager, Ebone


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"...they want Ebone to be run as it was pre-KPNQwest takeover."

Hum hum, with some changes made, though. Stupid decisions and unrealistic projects had their time, now it's time for real efficiency in all services, cost control (money spent where it is really needed, not everywhere) and above all, less coffee-machine managers all over the place.

We have proven, during this month, that Operations was the most important department in the company.  I'm not saying that we don't need anybody else, but I hope the deciders will be wise enough not to spend sh*t loads of money in flipping so-called marketers (been doing a search on a Belgian newspaper archive and Ebone is nowhere to be found, before we started occupying the NOC) and other "senior managers of anything just to get a big car and big salary for doing nothing".

Longing for tomorrow!!!!



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Quote: Originally posted by lrihoux on 30 June 2002

... Stupid decisions and unrealistic projects had their time, now it's time for real efficiency in all services, cost control (money spent where it is really needed, not everywhere) and above all, less coffee-machine managers all over the place.

We have proven, during this month, that Operations was the most important department in the company...


Laurent,

I fully agree with the first part. There were quite a few decisions made in the past that have not improved the balance sheet of the company.

Operations (did you mean NOC?) was doing a good job. But it would be worth to mention, that the network was built not only by the Operations. The thanks should go to everybody, who has contributed to it -  Engineering, Field Services, Logistics, CSC, Procurement, even Finance and HR. Sorry if I've missed any team, this is not intentional. All have contributed a lot to make the network nice, stable and reliable - as it is.

 



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the only team I never saw doing anything was marketing. Don't know wether they had any budgets, but things like registering your website in search engines doesn't cost money and even that marketing didn't do with Ebone (tried to do a search on Altavista.com on Ebone and got a site from a competitor).

I believe Laurent meant Operations as a whole of all technical people in the company (NOC, CSC, Engineering, Field Service, ...)


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Exactly. I meant the whole operational part of the company. Speed read my mind quite well. Sorry for the confusion.

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Don't forget the provisioning team, as they have done allot of work just to get the customers onto our beloved network.

 


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As one of the former GTS/Ebone Marketing I'd like to share your view on that what has been handled completely wrong in the past: using the net to promote the business. But also all the turbulence the company went through since start of 2001 wasn't helpful with too many namechanges on a corp level to start with. In fact I think we actually where well underway in the last months of 2001 after the name changed to Ebone but than all budgets where lowered to, say zero. One of the other issues with that group was their background, most survived from the GTS Business Services team and didn't really get the Wholesale/Backbone service division selling to Access Providers and Carriers.

With hintsight things like registering with searchengines etc should have been done, yes. But I doubt it would have saved our business as such. Most net-savvy guys, whether they where at Microsoft, Yahoo, @Home or the compitition knew the name and most of all the history of provisioning and customer service.

I hope we see some of that reoccur very soon again!

Pascal


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